need resources on Java/network/DB programming for non-dummies

[bucky at phantom.realshell.com (bucky at phantom.realshell.com)]

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everybody!) -

Just about every Java programmer that I know, myself included, swears by
the pair of O'Reilly books, "Java in a Nutshell" and "Java by Example",
for learning the language, and for having a decent reference after they've
learned it.

>From the applet experience that I've had, cross-browser compatibility
should be straightforward, provided you stick with the standard Java
classes.  You'll have to decide whether to stick with Java 1.0, or to use
the Java 1.2 classes, which gives you much better display capabilities,
but requires that your users install a plug-in.

Speaking of computer-run board games systems, you may want to check out
the "Q Universal Board Game", at qub.sourceforge.net.  They're working on
a universal client for on-line board games.  Well, universal in the sense
that you should be able to play any board game you want on it, once it's
finished.  It's designed using QT, and is probably pretty Unix-specific.  
But their architecture and design may be worth looking at.


David B.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Timothy W Haven wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Well, nobody else answered yet, so you get my second-hand info.
> I don't know the language, but this info looks good:
> http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/new2java/programming/learn/bookreview.html
> This covers many publisher's books, so at least it is not Sun-only.
> 
> Everything you could want is probably somewhere in:
> http://sun.systemnews.com/    
> (The maillist that this replicates is what pointed me at the first URL.)
> 
> Timothy
> thaven at world.std.com
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0500, Seth Gordon wrote:
> > I have an idea for a board game, and I'd like to implement it as a
> > Web-based game, because (a) creating and marketing a physical game is
> > more trouble than it's worth to me, and (b) doing it on the Web would
> > be a good exhibition and practice of my programming skills (such as
> > they are).
> > 
> > The logical, not to mention career-enhancing, way of implementing this
> > (correct me if I'm wrong) would be to have a server process on my own
> > machine using a database to keep track of game state, and Java applets
> > running in the players' browsers to display the board and communicate
> > with the server about moves.  (Note that I don't particularly care
> > what language the server process is written in.)
> > 
> > So if I want to implement this, I have to learn Java.  Can y'all
> > recommend books on Java that (a) are written for people who already
> > have some clue about programming; (b) will teach me to write applet
> > code that can run on a variety of browsers; (c) are well-organized
> > enough for me to learn what I need for *this project* without wading
> > through hundreds of irrelevant pages?
> > 
> > --
> > "The big dig might come in handy ... for a few project managers
> >  whom I think would make great landfill."  --Elaine Ashton
> > == seth gordon == sgordon at kenan.com == standard disclaimer ==
> > == documentation group, kenan systems corp., cambridge, ma ==
> > 
> > 
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