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From abreauj at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 12:35:41 2022 From: abreauj at gmail.com (John Abreau) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:35:41 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] html issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just noticed this uread thread in my inbox. The issue is firefox, and I imagine, other web browsers, won't follow file:// urls from a web page; such urls work when entered directly at the address bar, but be ignored when placed within an html document. I believe it's a security measure intended to thwart cross-site scripting attacks. On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM dan moylan wrote: > > gregory galperin wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 03:28:30PM -0400, dan moylan wrote: > > > > > > dale worely wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 02:30:26PM -0400, dan moylan wrote: > > > > > i'm probably shooting myself in the foot somewhere. note the > > > > > attached file at the end (tst.htm). when i invoke this > > > > > directly (file:///home/moylan/www/moy/lnk/tst.htm), FLI-? > > > > > works in each and every instance. when i call this file > > > > > from a link on my home page (which consists of a nest of > > > > > several frames), i see: > > > > > > > > > > FLI-0: nothing > > > > > FLI-1: The requested URL was not found on this server. > > > > > FLI-2: aok > > > > > FLI-3: aok > > > > > FLI-4: aok > > > > > FLI-5: The requested URL was not found on this server. > > > > > FLI-6: The requested URL was not found on this server. > > > > > > > > > > in any event, my immediate issue is resolved (i can do what > > > > > i need to do), but i'm still curious as to what's going on. > > > > > > > > > > thanks all for looking at my issue. > > > > > > > > > > ole dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "TST" > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that looks like the browser process doesn't have privs to > > > > access anything "above" /home/moylan/www/ -- what's the > > > > user, group, chmod on those dirs above, what uid & gid is > > > > the browser process running as? > > > > > > not so -- when tst.htm was invoked directly, and not via > > > another link, there were no priv issues, and the browser > > > accessed the file just fine in every instance, including > > > "above" /home/moylan/www. > > > I'm reaching a bit, but I could imagine the browser knowing what its > > working dir is and stripping that off an absolute path to use a relative > > path below it. > > that would not provide an explanation for why tst.htm would > work perfectly when invoked on its own, but not when called > from another link from my home page. actually i tried > calling it from just another link and it functioned > perfectly. > > > got another explanation? ;) > > something to to with frames? if so too abstruse for me. > > > another thing I wondered was whether any of these dirs were symlinks, > since > > in that case ../dirsymlink/ isn't a no-op. > > no symlinks in the path. > > thanks for the help, > ole dan > > j. daniel moylan > 84 harvard ave > brookline, ma 02446-6202 > 617-777-0207 (cel) > jdm at moylan.us > www.moylan.us > [BLM] > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0x920063C6 PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 From lconrad at laymusic.org Sun Jun 5 13:34:23 2022 From: lconrad at laymusic.org (Laura Conrad) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:34:23 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] html issue In-Reply-To: (John Abreau's message of "Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:35:41 -0400") References:

Message-ID: <87wndv6mlc.fsf@laymusic.org> >>>>> "John" == John Abreau writes: John> Just noticed this uread thread in my inbox. John> The issue is firefox, and I imagine, other web browsers, won't follow John> file:// urls from a web page; such urls work when entered directly at the John> address bar, but be ignored when placed within an html document. I believe John> it's a security measure intended to thwart cross-site scripting attacks. This is probably a different html issue from the one I've been dealing with. But I'll describe my problem and solution in case it helps someone else. When I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04LTS, firefox stopped displaying emails from emacs. Emacs wrote a file like /tmp/, and firefox couldn't access it. It turns out that 22.04 installs firefox from a snap, and snap programs can't access /tmp files. (They claim to be able to access files in /home, but I wasn't able to verify that.) The solution I'm using is the one described here: . I had done something like this a few weeks ago, and when I sat down at the computer this morning, after updating software without thinking, I was back not being able to access the /tmp files. This version does some pinning and adding instructions to unattended upgrades, that I don't remember doing before, so maybe it won't "upgrade" me again. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad at laymusic.org) (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 Copyright law has abandoned its reason for being: to encourage learning and the creation of new works. Instead, its principal functions now are to preserve existing failed business models, to suppress new business models and technologies, and to obtain, if possible, enormous windfall profits from activity that not only causes no harm, but which is beneficial to copyright owners. William Patry, in his farewell post on "The Patry Copyright Blog". From joe at polcari.com Sun Jun 5 13:44:23 2022 From: joe at polcari.com (Joe Polcari) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:44:23 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] html issue In-Reply-To: <87wndv6mlc.fsf@laymusic.org> References: <87wndv6mlc.fsf@laymusic.org> Message-ID: <4EE0A623-C2E3-41AF-BA2A-599C05E22AD2@polcari.com> Thanks Laura! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2022, at 1:35 PM, Laura Conrad wrote: > > ? >> >>>>>> "John" == John Abreau writes: > > John> Just noticed this uread thread in my inbox. > John> The issue is firefox, and I imagine, other web browsers, won't follow > John> file:// urls from a web page; such urls work when entered directly at the > John> address bar, but be ignored when placed within an html document. I believe > John> it's a security measure intended to thwart cross-site scripting attacks. > > This is probably a different html issue from the one I've been dealing > with. But I'll describe my problem and solution in case it helps > someone else. > > When I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04LTS, firefox stopped displaying emails > from emacs. Emacs wrote a file like /tmp/, and firefox > couldn't access it. > > It turns out that 22.04 installs firefox from a snap, and snap programs > can't access /tmp files. (They claim to be able to access files in > /home, but I wasn't able to verify that.) > > The solution I'm using is the one described here: > . > > I had done something like this a few weeks ago, and when I sat down at > the computer this morning, after updating software without thinking, I > was back not being able to access the /tmp files. This version does > some pinning and adding instructions to unattended upgrades, that I > don't remember doing before, so maybe it won't "upgrade" me again. > > > -- > Laura (mailto:lconrad at laymusic.org) > (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 > > > Copyright law has abandoned its reason for being: to encourage > learning and the creation of new works. Instead, its principal > functions now are to preserve existing failed business models, to > suppress new business models and technologies, and to obtain, if > possible, enormous windfall profits from activity that not only causes > no harm, but which is beneficial to copyright owners. > > William Patry, in his farewell post on "The Patry Copyright Blog". > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From epp at null.net Sun Jun 5 13:58:07 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:58:07 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] html issue In-Reply-To: <87wndv6mlc.fsf@laymusic.org> References:

<87wndv6mlc.fsf@laymusic.org> Message-ID: On 6/5/22 13:34, Laura Conrad wrote: >>>>>> "John" == John Abreau writes: > John> Just noticed this uread thread in my inbox. > John> The issue is firefox, and I imagine, other web browsers, won't follow > John> file:// urls from a web page; such urls work when entered directly at the > John> address bar, but be ignored when placed within an html document. I believe > John> it's a security measure intended to thwart cross-site scripting attacks. > > This is probably a different html issue from the one I've been dealing > with. But I'll describe my problem and solution in case it helps > someone else. > > When I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04LTS, firefox stopped displaying emails > from emacs. Emacs wrote a file like /tmp/, and firefox > couldn't access it. > > It turns out that 22.04 installs firefox from a snap, and snap programs > can't access /tmp files. (They claim to be able to access files in > /home, but I wasn't able to verify that.) This was a problem I had when I tried Lubuntu. LibreOffice (at least the Ubuntu-supplied .deb package) uses Firefox to display its help files. Firefox via the .deb package retrieved the help files without issue. The Firefox snap, couldn't, displaying a 404 error in the browser. The bug report filed on this (eight months ago and since confirmed), remains unresolved. I eventually gave up on Lubuntu. From gaf.linux at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 14:22:41 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 14:22:41 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] package for 3.5" HDD and 2.5" HDD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In the past I have packaged both 2.5" and 3.5" externally. I purchased the packaging at micro center in Cambridge. Unfortunately I lost track of them when I moved several years ago -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Wed, May 25, 2022, 4:13 PM Tom Lou wrote: > Hi, all, > > Does anyone have any packages for 3.5" HDD and 2.5" HDD? > Ideally, if you have the original 3.5" and 2.5" hard drive packages, it > will be great. > I installed Ubuntu on those hard drives for a friend and plan to mail them > to him. > But I really cannot find any suitable packages. I can pay for the package > if you want. > > Thanks, > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From gaf.linux at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 12:43:10 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 12:43:10 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Boston Linux VIRTUAL Meeting , Wednesday, June 15, 2022 - Private Google Docs at Home using SeaFile and LibreOffice Online Message-ID: <84cf2719-c269-dc1c-6f7f-9c4db25fd111@gmail.com> When: June 15, 2022 7:00PM EDT (6:30PM for Q&A) Topic:? Private Google Docs at Home using SeaFile and LibreOffice Online Moderator: Brendan Kidwell Location: Online: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org Live stream: https://youtu.be/HYmsZNgsosI Summary: SeaFile and LibreOffice Online together provide most of the functionality of Google Docs Abstract SeaFile and LibreOffice Online together provide most of the functionality you get in Google Docs, except that you can own and install the software on a server in your private home. Brendan will demonstrate setting up a home file server using the following: Ubuntu 22.04 Server OS SeaFile Apache web server, Python 3, MySQL Collabora LibreOffice Online Afraid.org free dynamic DNS Let's Encrypt free TLS certificate service GoCryptfs for encrypting all of your data and databases at rest on the server No need to take notes. A complete write-up will be posted on www.glump.net . Bio: Brendan is a web developer and computer nerd in New York City. Originally from Boston. Has a B.S. degree in Mathematics with a minor in Computer Science from Bridgewater State University (Massachusetts). Day job is building IT stuff for a big government policy research company. On the side, Brendan hacks on open source projects, writes, and tells people they should ditch proprietary software. Attachments: 1. https://freedns.afraid.org/ 2. https://github.com/rfjakob/gocryptfs 3. https://letsencrypt.org/ 4. https://ubuntu.com/download/server 5. https://www.collaboraoffice.com/code/ 6. https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ For further information and directions please consult the BLU Web site: http://www.blu.org -- Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1? 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/announce From boumanmcc at mykolab.com Mon Jun 13 15:11:07 2022 From: boumanmcc at mykolab.com (MC) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? Message-ID: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> time to buy another iphone...used of course, cause i don't shell out for new. Ebay is OK, but nothing is listed that i need or want. since 3g is getting booted, i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be booted soon. so...any suggestions? Anything comparable to EBAY? maybe someplace that might have more tech oriented stuff to auction? Got a headache and gotta sign off. MCB PS: used a BBz10 for all these years until they were shut off. Im thinking about a BBz30 because how can I go wrong with $75.00 plus shipping? Comments anyone? MCB From gaf.linux at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 15:21:51 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> Message-ID: I suggest you check out My stick FOSS. Dick Miller goes to eBay for his phones and gets them inexpensively https://millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupArchive.html They also have a listserv -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 3:13 PM MC wrote: > time to buy another iphone...used of course, cause i don't shell out for > new. Ebay is OK, but nothing is listed that i need or want. since 3g is > getting booted, i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be > booted soon. so...any suggestions? Anything comparable to EBAY? maybe > someplace that might have more tech oriented stuff to auction? Got a > headache and gotta sign off. MCB > > PS: used a BBz10 for all these years until they were shut off. Im > thinking about a BBz30 because how can I go wrong with $75.00 plus > shipping? Comments anyone? MCB > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From Joe at Polcari.com Mon Jun 13 15:23:43 2022 From: Joe at Polcari.com (Joe Polcari) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:23:43 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> Message-ID: <011b01d87f5b$196dfe20$4c49fa60$@Polcari.com> Try back market - that's where I got my last iPhones. https://www.backmarket.com/refurbished-good-deals.html -----Original Message----- From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+joe=polcari.com at lists.blu.org] On Behalf Of MC Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 3:11 PM To: BLU.org Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? time to buy another iphone...used of course, cause i don't shell out for new. Ebay is OK, but nothing is listed that i need or want. since 3g is getting booted, i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be booted soon. so...any suggestions? Anything comparable to EBAY? maybe someplace that might have more tech oriented stuff to auction? Got a headache and gotta sign off. MCB PS: used a BBz10 for all these years until they were shut off. Im thinking about a BBz30 because how can I go wrong with $75.00 plus shipping? Comments anyone? MCB _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss at lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From gaf.linux at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 15:41:58 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:41:58 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: <011b01d87f5b$196dfe20$4c49fa60$@Polcari.com> References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> <011b01d87f5b$196dfe20$4c49fa60$@Polcari.com> Message-ID: At some point anything less than 5G will go obsolete, but not anytime soon -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 3:26 PM Joe Polcari wrote: > Try back market - that's where I got my last iPhones. > https://www.backmarket.com/refurbished-good-deals.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+joe=polcari.com at lists.blu.org] On > Behalf Of MC > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 3:11 PM > To: BLU.org > Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? > > time to buy another iphone...used of course, cause i don't shell out for > new. Ebay is OK, but nothing is listed that i need or want. since 3g is > getting booted, i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be > booted soon. so...any suggestions? Anything comparable to EBAY? maybe > someplace that might have more tech oriented stuff to auction? Got a > headache and gotta sign off. MCB > > PS: used a BBz10 for all these years until they were shut off. Im > thinking about a BBz30 because how can I go wrong with $75.00 plus > shipping? Comments anyone? MCB > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From malassimilation at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 17:21:56 2022 From: malassimilation at gmail.com (Bill Horne) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 17:21:56 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> Message-ID: On 6/13/2022 3:11 PM, MC wrote: > ?i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be booted > soonts.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss If your "4G LTE" phone is in the same groups as my wife's LG VS930, then you're looking for 5G, or the special extra-sexy, improved version of 4G LTE HECIG that Verizon is demanding that she buy if she doesn't choose to spend over $1,000 for their new and improved copy of a Motorola flip phone. Needless to say, a sore subject with me. We went to ting.com and I pay about $25 a month now. Bill Horne -- Bill Horne From epp at null.net Mon Jun 13 17:32:11 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 17:32:11 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> Message-ID: <3a55cc59-323c-bd02-a67a-644f8872405e@null.net> On 6/13/22 17:21, Bill Horne wrote: > On 6/13/2022 3:11 PM, MC wrote: >> ?i'm looking for a 4g lte that isn't antique enough to be booted >> soonts.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > If your "4G LTE" phone is in the same groups as my wife's LG VS930, > then you're looking for 5G, or the special extra-sexy, improved > version of 4G LTE HECIG that Verizon is demanding that she buy if she > doesn't choose to spend over $1,000 for their new and improved copy of > a Motorola flip phone. > > Needless to say, a sore subject with me. We went to ting.com and I pay > about $25 a month now. > > Bill Horne > https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans/connect Unlimited domestic talk and texts for as low as $15 a month. The $15 plan includes 3Gb data, the $25 plan includes 6Gb data, both monthly. These two plans increase the data allotment by 500Mb each year until March 2025. From richard.pieri at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 18:48:50 2022 From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 18:48:50 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] any good alternatives to ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <8842e6b8fc114fbb0a9e830b55956f70@mykolab.com> Message-ID: <20220613184850.000051d7.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 17:21:56 -0400 Bill Horne wrote: > If your "4G LTE" phone is in the same groups as my wife's LG VS930, > then you're looking for 5G, or the special extra-sexy, improved > version of 4G LTE HECIG that Verizon is demanding that she buy if she Never, ever buy a phone directly from a major carrier. If you're looking for Apple then buy direct from Apple, especially if you already have Apple for trade-in. -- \m/ (--) \m/ From gaf.linux at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 21:31:18 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 21:31:18 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Boston Linux VIRTUAL Meeting , reminder, tomorrow, Wednesday, June 15, 2022 - Round-Table Discussion on App Package Systems Message-ID: <7635b7af-e973-25f6-0889-29228a7ebf9d@gmail.com> When: June 15, 2022 7:00PM EDT (6:30PM for Q&A) Topic:? Private Google Docs at Home using SeaFile and LibreOffice Online Moderator: Brendan Kidwell Location: Online:https://meet.jit.si/blu.org Live stream:https://youtu.be/HYmsZNgsosI Summary: SeaFile and LibreOffice Online together provide most of the functionality of Google Docs Abstract SeaFile and LibreOffice Online together provide most of the functionality you get in Google Docs, except that you can own and install the software on a server in your private home. Brendan will demonstrate setting up a home file server using the following: Ubuntu 22.04 Server OS SeaFile Apache web server, Python 3, MySQL Collabora LibreOffice Online Afraid.org free dynamic DNS Let's Encrypt free TLS certificate service GoCryptfs for encrypting all of your data and databases at rest on the server No need to take notes. A complete write-up will be posted on www.glump.net . Bio: Brendan is a web developer and computer nerd in New York City. Originally from Boston. Has a B.S. degree in Mathematics with a minor in Computer Science from Bridgewater State University (Massachusetts). Day job is building IT stuff for a big government policy research company. On the side, Brendan hacks on open source projects, writes, and tells people they should ditch proprietary software. Attachments: 1.https://freedns.afraid.org/ 2.https://github.com/rfjakob/gocryptfs 3.https://letsencrypt.org/ 4.https://ubuntu.com/download/server 5.https://www.collaboraoffice.com/code/ 6.https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ For further information and directions please consult the BLU Web site: http://www.blu.org -- Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1? 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/announce From malassimilation at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 18:55:58 2022 From: malassimilation at gmail.com (Bill Horne) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 18:55:58 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Seeking opinions on drive partitioning Message-ID: <636106d5-953d-c28b-8d3d-e8577ebc14a2@gmail.com> Thanks for reading this. I appreciate your time. I've been doing Spring Cleaning, and I came across a 2TB Western Digital drive that I got a while back. I'm going to put it in an older PC that will run Ubuntu, and use it for a backup server if SAMBA is still available. I have a mixed windoze/Linux environment, with very little content creation other than emails and occasional spreadsheets. Please tell me how you recommend I partition the drive. Bill -- Bill Horne From malassimilation at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 01:52:06 2022 From: malassimilation at gmail.com (E. William Horne) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 01:52:06 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Seeking opinions on drive partitioning In-Reply-To: <3ACC3CC7-5484-4D94-9905-082F2B05B77C@dartmouth.edu> References: <636106d5-953d-c28b-8d3d-e8577ebc14a2@gmail.com> <3ACC3CC7-5484-4D94-9905-082F2B05B77C@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <14784cfd-a942-7c97-d7f9-8dbe9434acca@gmail.com> Benjamin, thanks for the info. I'd appreciate a little extra info, so please fill me in on a couple of items: On 6/17/2022 10:24 PM, Benjamin Kallus wrote: > 256 MB EFI partition, 128 GB rootfs, a little swap, and the rest as a home partition. Never used to use a dedicated home partition, but now that I've started I'm not going back. What partition type number is used for EFI? The fdisk list on my Ubuntu machine shows "ef? EFI (FAT-12/16/" - is that the one? Do you favor formatting with a Master Boot Record, or UUID? What's the advantage of UUID? The machine I'll use tops out at 4GB Ram, so I assume the swap partition would be set at the traditional 2X RAM, or 8 GB: do you recommend more? Less? What are the advantages of a separate home partition? Do you recommend EXT4 for the / and /home directories? Again, my thanks. Bill > On Jun 17, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Bill Horne wrote: > > ?Thanks for reading this. I appreciate your time. > > I've been doing Spring Cleaning, and I came across a 2TB Western Digital drive that I got a while back. > > I'm going to put it in an older PC that will run Ubuntu, and use it for a backup server if SAMBA is still available. I have a mixed windoze/Linux environment, with very little content creation other than emails and occasional spreadsheets. > > Please tell me how you recommend I partition the drive. > > Bill > > -- > Bill Horne > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From jdm at moylan.us Fri Jun 24 11:21:11 2022 From: jdm at moylan.us (dan moylan) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:21:11 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue Message-ID: running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp photosmart d110. because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 10.0.0.61 unknown 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent 50.87.218.82 bluedan all is well, except for the printer. i went through the wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- un-pingable. moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) Host is up (0.10s latency). All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds what's going on? ole dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-777-0207 (cel) jdm at moylan.us www.moylan.us [BLM] From epp at null.net Fri Jun 24 13:58:01 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 13:58:01 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net> On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp > photosmart d110. > > because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a > new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and > set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with > /etc/hosts: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > > 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity > 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon > 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 > 10.0.0.61 unknown > 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > 50.87.218.82 bluedan > > all is well, except for the printer. i went through the > wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but > the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- > un-pingable. > > moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log > > Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT > Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) > Host is up (0.10s latency). > All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are > in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports > (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) > > Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds > > what's going on? > > ole dan I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the speed increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the previous and is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently retained its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the new gateway, it just worked. If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already installed, as superuser/root, running: hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. From benjamin.p.kallus.gr at dartmouth.edu Fri Jun 24 15:54:30 2022 From: benjamin.p.kallus.gr at dartmouth.edu (Ben Kallus) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 19:54:30 +0000 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net> References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net> Message-ID: It's worth noting the security risks that come with network printers. Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting it to a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a kid, and I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. [1]: https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: > > ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > >> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp >> >> photosmart d110. >> >> >> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a >> >> new modem/router/wifi. ?i logged into xfinity's device and >> >> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with >> >> /etc/hosts: >> >> >> 127.0.0.1 ??????localhost.localdomain localhost >> >> 127.0.0.1 ??????alphacent.localdomain ?alphacent >> >> >> 10.0.0.1 ????????xfinity.localdomain xfinity >> >> 10.0.0.63 ???????aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon >> >> 10.0.0.62 ???????d110.localdomain d110 >> >> 10.0.0.61 ???????unknown >> >> 10.0.0.60 ???????alphacent.localdomain alphacent >> >> 50.87.218.82 ????bluedan >> >> >> all is well, except for the printer. ?i went through the >> >> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but >> >> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- >> >> un-pingable. >> >> >> ??moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log >> >> >> ??Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT >> >> ??Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) >> >> ??Host is up (0.10s latency). >> >> ??All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are >> >> ??in ignored states. ?Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports >> >> ??(no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) >> >> >> ??Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds >> >> >> what's going on? >> >> >> ole dan > > > I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the speed > increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the previous and > is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently retained > its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the new > gateway, it just worked. > > If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already > installed, as superuser/root, running: > > hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 > > in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From epp at null.net Fri Jun 24 16:49:33 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 16:49:33 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net> Message-ID: My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download and install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I do not know how often it checks HP for updates. On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network printers. > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting it to > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a kid, and > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. > > [1]: https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: >> >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: >> >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp >>> >>> photosmart d110. >>> >>> >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a >>> >>> new modem/router/wifi. ?i logged into xfinity's device and >>> >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with >>> >>> /etc/hosts: >>> >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 ??????localhost.localdomain localhost >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 ??????alphacent.localdomain ?alphacent >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.1 ????????xfinity.localdomain xfinity >>> >>> 10.0.0.63 ???????aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon >>> >>> 10.0.0.62 ???????d110.localdomain d110 >>> >>> 10.0.0.61 ???????unknown >>> >>> 10.0.0.60 ???????alphacent.localdomain alphacent >>> >>> 50.87.218.82 ????bluedan >>> >>> >>> all is well, except for the printer. ?i went through the >>> >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but >>> >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- >>> >>> un-pingable. >>> >>> >>> ??moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log >>> >>> >>> ??Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT >>> >>> ??Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) >>> >>> ??Host is up (0.10s latency). >>> >>> ??All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are >>> >>> ??in ignored states. ?Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports >>> >>> ??(no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) >>> >>> >>> ??Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds >>> >>> >>> what's going on? >>> >>> >>> ole dan >> >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the speed >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the previous and >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently retained >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the new >> gateway, it just worked. >> >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already >> installed, as superuser/root, running: >> >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 >> >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. From abreauj at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 19:04:20 2022 From: abreauj at gmail.com (John Abreau) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 19:04:20 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

Message-ID: I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one device to that router: my own personal wifi router. My internal home network is always under my personal administrative control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth between my private network and the public Internet. On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: > My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download and > install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the > network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I do not > know how often it checks HP for updates. > > > > On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: > > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network printers. > > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be > > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting it to > > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through > > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a kid, and > > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. > > > > [1]: > https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > > > >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: > >> > >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > >> > >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp > >>> > >>> photosmart d110. > >>> > >>> > >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a > >>> > >>> new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and > >>> > >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with > >>> > >>> /etc/hosts: > >>> > >>> > >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > >>> > >>> 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > >>> > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.61 unknown > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > >>> > >>> 50.87.218.82 bluedan > >>> > >>> > >>> all is well, except for the printer. i went through the > >>> > >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but > >>> > >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- > >>> > >>> un-pingable. > >>> > >>> > >>> moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log > >>> > >>> > >>> Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT > >>> > >>> Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) > >>> > >>> Host is up (0.10s latency). > >>> > >>> All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are > >>> > >>> in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports > >>> > >>> (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) > >>> > >>> > >>> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds > >>> > >>> > >>> what's going on? > >>> > >>> > >>> ole dan > >> > >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the speed > >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the previous and > >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently retained > >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the new > >> gateway, it just worked. > >> > >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already > >> installed, as superuser/root, running: > >> > >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 > >> > >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0x920063C6 PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 From epp at null.net Fri Jun 24 19:49:04 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 19:49:04 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

Message-ID: Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: > I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your > ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the > ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one > device to that router: my own personal wifi router. > > My internal home network is always under my personal administrative > control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth > between my private network and the public Internet. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: > > My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download and > install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the > network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I > do not > know how often it checks HP for updates. > > > > On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: > > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network > printers. > > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be > > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting > it to > > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through > > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a > kid, and > > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. > > > > [1]: > https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > > > >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: > >> > >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > >> > >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp > >>> > >>> photosmart d110. > >>> > >>> > >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a > >>> > >>> new modem/router/wifi. ?i logged into xfinity's device and > >>> > >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with > >>> > >>> /etc/hosts: > >>> > >>> > >>> 127.0.0.1 ??????localhost.localdomain localhost > >>> > >>> 127.0.0.1 ??????alphacent.localdomain ?alphacent > >>> > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.1 ????????xfinity.localdomain xfinity > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.63 ???????aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.62 ???????d110.localdomain d110 > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.61 ???????unknown > >>> > >>> 10.0.0.60 ???????alphacent.localdomain alphacent > >>> > >>> 50.87.218.82 ????bluedan > >>> > >>> > >>> all is well, except for the printer. ?i went through the > >>> > >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but > >>> > >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- > >>> > >>> un-pingable. > >>> > >>> > >>>? ??moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log > >>> > >>> > >>>? ??Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 EDT > >>> > >>>? ??Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) > >>> > >>>? ??Host is up (0.10s latency). > >>> > >>>? ??All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are > >>> > >>>? ??in ignored states.? Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports > >>> > >>>? ??(no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) > >>> > >>> > >>>? ??Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds > >>> > >>> > >>> what's going on? > >>> > >>> > >>> ole dan > >> > >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the > speed > >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the > previous and > >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently > retained > >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the new > >> gateway, it just worked. > >> > >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already > >> installed, as superuser/root, running: > >> > >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 > >> > >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > -- > John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix > Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID > 0x920063C6 > PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23? C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 > From gaf.linux at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 20:16:06 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 20:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

Message-ID: The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or your own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. If you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating your devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from the outside, that is a different story. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM wrote: > Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this > is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved > modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. > > I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I > have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network > would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi > connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast > gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both > 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. > > > On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: > > I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your > > ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the > > ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one > > device to that router: my own personal wifi router. > > > > My internal home network is always under my personal administrative > > control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth > > between my private network and the public Internet. > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: > > > > My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download > and > > install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the > > network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I > > do not > > know how often it checks HP for updates. > > > > > > > > On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: > > > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network > > printers. > > > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be > > > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting > > it to > > > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through > > > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a > > kid, and > > > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. > > > > > > [1]: > > > https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > > > > > >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: > > >> > > >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > > >> > > >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp > > >>> > > >>> photosmart d110. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a > > >>> > > >>> new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and > > >>> > > >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with > > >>> > > >>> /etc/hosts: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > >>> > > >>> 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity > > >>> > > >>> 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon > > >>> > > >>> 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 > > >>> > > >>> 10.0.0.61 unknown > > >>> > > >>> 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > > >>> > > >>> 50.87.218.82 bluedan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> all is well, except for the printer. i went through the > > >>> > > >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but > > >>> > > >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- > > >>> > > >>> un-pingable. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 > EDT > > >>> > > >>> Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) > > >>> > > >>> Host is up (0.10s latency). > > >>> > > >>> All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are > > >>> > > >>> in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports > > >>> > > >>> (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> what's going on? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ole dan > > >> > > >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the > > speed > > >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the > > previous and > > >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently > > retained > > >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the > new > > >> gateway, it just worked. > > >> > > >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already > > >> installed, as superuser/root, running: > > >> > > >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 > > >> > > >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss at lists.blu.org > > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > -- > > John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix > > Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID > > 0x920063C6 > > PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From epp at null.net Fri Jun 24 20:36:20 2022 From: epp at null.net (epp at null.net) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 20:36:20 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

Message-ID: <27337416-ab62-af27-dcfe-640fa095e266@null.net> Another issue with the Asus - when it was functioning as a standard router, was that it would not enable IPv6. The only way it could be used for both IPv4 and 6, was to configure it as an AP. There are settings in its firmware to enable IPv6 when used as a standard router, but none of the settings worked. Is it the general opinion that a printer should be directly connected to the computer, rather than via Ethernet/WiFi? On 6/24/22 20:16, Jerry Feldman wrote: > The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or your > own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. If > you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating your > devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from > the outside, that is a different story. > > -- > Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org > PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 > PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 > B B6E7 > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM wrote: > >> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this >> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved >> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. >> >> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I >> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network >> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi >> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast >> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both >> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. >> >> >> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: >>> I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your >>> ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the >>> ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one >>> device to that router: my own personal wifi router. >>> >>> My internal home network is always under my personal administrative >>> control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth >>> between my private network and the public Internet. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: >>> >>> My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download >> and >>> install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the >>> network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I >>> do not >>> know how often it checks HP for updates. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: >>> > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network >>> printers. >>> > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be >>> > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting >>> it to >>> > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through >>> > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a >>> kid, and >>> > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. >>> > >>> > [1]: >>> >> https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one >>> > >>> >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: >>> >> >>> >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp >>> >>> >>> >>> photosmart d110. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a >>> >>> >>> >>> new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and >>> >>> >>> >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with >>> >>> >>> >>> /etc/hosts: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost >>> >>> >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity >>> >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon >>> >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 >>> >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.61 unknown >>> >>> >>> >>> 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent >>> >>> >>> >>> 50.87.218.82 bluedan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> all is well, except for the printer. i went through the >>> >>> >>> >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but >>> >>> >>> >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- >>> >>> >>> >>> un-pingable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14 >> EDT >>> >>> >>> >>> Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) >>> >>> >>> >>> Host is up (0.10s latency). >>> >>> >>> >>> All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are >>> >>> >>> >>> in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports >>> >>> >>> >>> (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> what's going on? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ole dan >>> >> >>> >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the >>> speed >>> >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the >>> previous and >>> >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently >>> retained >>> >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the >> new >>> >> gateway, it just worked. >>> >> >>> >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already >>> >> installed, as superuser/root, running: >>> >> >>> >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 >>> >> >>> >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss at lists.blu.org >>> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix >>> Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID >>> 0x920063C6 >>> PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 From gaf.linux at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 20:46:09 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 20:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: <27337416-ab62-af27-dcfe-640fa095e266@null.net> References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

<27337416-ab62-af27-dcfe-640fa095e266@null.net> Message-ID: IMHO the printer should be on the LAN. Connecting it to the computer means that the computer needs to be running for the printer to be accessible to other systems. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 PM wrote: > Another issue with the Asus - when it was functioning as a standard > router, was that it would not enable IPv6. The only way it could be used > for both IPv4 and 6, was to configure it as an AP. There are settings in > its firmware to enable IPv6 when used as a standard router, but none of > the settings worked. > > Is it the general opinion that a printer should be directly connected to > the computer, rather than via Ethernet/WiFi? > > > On 6/24/22 20:16, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or > your > > own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. > If > > you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating > your > > devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from > > the outside, that is a different story. > > > > -- > > Jerry Feldman > > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org > > PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 > > PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 > > B B6E7 > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM wrote: > > > >> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this > >> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved > >> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. > >> > >> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I > >> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network > >> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi > >> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast > >> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both > >> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. > >> > >> > >> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: > >>> I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your > >>> ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the > >>> ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one > >>> device to that router: my own personal wifi router. > >>> > >>> My internal home network is always under my personal administrative > >>> control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth > >>> between my private network and the public Internet. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: > >>> > >>> My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download > >> and > >>> install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to > the > >>> network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I > >>> do not > >>> know how often it checks HP for updates. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: > >>> > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network > >>> printers. > >>> > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be > >>> > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting > >>> it to > >>> > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer > through > >>> > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a > >>> kid, and > >>> > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. > >>> > > >>> > [1]: > >>> > >> > https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one > >>> > > >>> >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp > >>> >>> > >>> >>> photosmart d110. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a > >>> >>> > >>> >>> new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and > >>> >>> > >>> >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with > >>> >>> > >>> >>> /etc/hosts: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 10.0.0.61 unknown > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 50.87.218.82 bluedan > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> all is well, except for the printer. i went through the > >>> >>> > >>> >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but > >>> >>> > >>> >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- > >>> >>> > >>> >>> un-pingable. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 > 11:14 > >> EDT > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Host is up (0.10s latency). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are > >>> >>> > >>> >>> in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports > >>> >>> > >>> >>> (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> what's going on? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> ole dan > >>> >> > >>> >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the > >>> speed > >>> >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the > >>> previous and > >>> >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently > >>> retained > >>> >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the > >> new > >>> >> gateway, it just worked. > >>> >> > >>> >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is > already > >>> >> installed, as superuser/root, running: > >>> >> > >>> >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 > >>> >> > >>> >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> Discuss at lists.blu.org > >>> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix > >>> Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID > >>> 0x920063C6 > >>> PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From benjamin.p.kallus.gr at dartmouth.edu Fri Jun 24 22:13:27 2022 From: benjamin.p.kallus.gr at dartmouth.edu (Benjamin Kallus) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 22:13:27 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0024843C-CEAC-474C-BB7D-F2267D9C0A66@dartmouth.edu> However, to connect a printer to the LAN is to trust the printer's IP stack (you probably shouldnt unless your printer is brand new) Ultimately, a network printer is usually just an ARM or MIPS computer running ancient busybox/linux. Do you really want that on your network? > On Jun 24, 2022, at 8:47 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > ?IMHO the printer should be on the LAN. Connecting it to the computer means > that the computer needs to be running for the printer to be accessible to > other systems. > > -- > Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org > PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 > PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 > B B6E7 > >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 PM wrote: >> >> Another issue with the Asus - when it was functioning as a standard >> router, was that it would not enable IPv6. The only way it could be used >> for both IPv4 and 6, was to configure it as an AP. There are settings in >> its firmware to enable IPv6 when used as a standard router, but none of >> the settings worked. >> >> Is it the general opinion that a printer should be directly connected to >> the computer, rather than via Ethernet/WiFi? >> >> >>> On 6/24/22 20:16, Jerry Feldman wrote: >>> The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or >> your >>> own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. >> If >>> you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating >> your >>> devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from >>> the outside, that is a different story. >>> >>> -- >>> Jerry Feldman >>> Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org >>> PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 >>> PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 >>> B B6E7 >>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM wrote: >>> >>>> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this >>>> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved >>>> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. >>>> >>>> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I >>>> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network >>>> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi >>>> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast >>>> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both >>>> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: >>>>> I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your >>>>> ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the >>>>> ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one >>>>> device to that router: my own personal wifi router. >>>>> >>>>> My internal home network is always under my personal administrative >>>>> control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth >>>>> between my private network and the public Internet. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download >>>> and >>>>> install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to >> the >>>>> network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I >>>>> do not >>>>> know how often it checks HP for updates. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote: >>>>>> It's worth noting the security risks that come with network >>>>> printers. >>>>>> Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be >>>>>> insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting >>>>> it to >>>>>> a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer >> through >>>>>> that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a >>>>> kid, and >>>>>> I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1]: >>>>> >>>> >> https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> photosmart d110. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> new modem/router/wifi. i logged into xfinity's device and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /etc/hosts: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1 alphacent.localdomain alphacent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.1 xfinity.localdomain xfinity >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.63 aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.62 d110.localdomain d110 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.61 unknown >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 10.0.0.60 alphacent.localdomain alphacent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 50.87.218.82 bluedan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> all is well, except for the printer. i went through the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> un-pingable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 >> 11:14 >>>> EDT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Host is up (0.10s latency). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in ignored states. Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what's going on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ole dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the >>>>> speed >>>>>>> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the >>>>> previous and >>>>>>> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently >>>>> retained >>>>>>> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the >>>> new >>>>>>> gateway, it just worked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is >> already >>>>>>> installed, as superuser/root, running: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss at lists.blu.org >>>>> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix >>>>> Email: abreauj at gmail.com / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID >>>>> 0x920063C6 >>>>> PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss at lists.blu.org >> http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From jbk at kjkelra.com Sat Jun 25 08:52:49 2022 From: jbk at kjkelra.com (jbk) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:52:49 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] printer issue vs Lan Isolation In-Reply-To: References: <601aa6ee-f160-823c-9bed-f90e7e195fcc@null.net>

<27337416-ab62-af27-dcfe-640fa095e266@null.net> Message-ID: <67a4e97b-7457-96d7-5355-2c13e019d234@kjkelra.com> On 6/24/22 20:46, Jerry Feldman wrote: > IMHO the printer should be on the LAN. Connecting it to the computer means > that the computer needs to be running for the printer to be accessible to > other systems. > > -- > Jerry Feldman > Boston Linux and Unixhttp://www.blu.org > PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 > PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 > B B6E7 > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 PM wrote: > >> Another issue with the Asus - when it was functioning as a standard >> router, was that it would not enable IPv6. The only way it could be used >> for both IPv4 and 6, was to configure it as an AP. There are settings in >> its firmware to enable IPv6 when used as a standard router, but none of >> the settings worked. >> >> Is it the general opinion that a printer should be directly connected to >> the computer, rather than via Ethernet/WiFi? >> >> >> On 6/24/22 20:16, Jerry Feldman wrote: >>> The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or >> your >>> own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. >> If >>> you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating >> your >>> devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from >>> the outside, that is a different story. >>> >>> -- >>> Jerry Feldman >>> Boston Linux and Unixhttp://www.blu.org >>> PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 >>> PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 >>> B B6E7 >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM wrote: >>> >>>> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this >>>> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved >>>> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work. >>>> >>>> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I >>>> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network >>>> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi >>>> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast >>>> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both >>>> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote: >>>>> I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your >>>>> ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the >>>>> ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one >>>>> device to that router: my own personal wifi router. >>>>> >>>>> My internal home network is always under my personal administrative >>>>> control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth >>>>> between my private network and the public Internet. >>>>> >>>>> I was a bit concerned after I got cable (Comcast) and discovered that they had complete access to my internal network. So I decided with the help of another blu member to make the comcast router a pass-thru device to my own router that I flashed with a known linux router software, in my case it is dd-wrt. The important thing here is to get an actively maintained router OS so that you can get security updates on a periodic basis. dd-wrt provides new builds every 3 days or so. Now no-one has direct access to my internal network. I have no open ports to the www side. The weak link is now the wifi vulnerability to local attack via password cracking. The printer is on the lan and is so old that I doubt there is any recent updates for it. -- Jim Kelly-Rand jbk at kjkelra.com From worley at alum.mit.edu Sun Jun 26 22:34:20 2022 From: worley at alum.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: (discuss-request@driftwood.blu.org) Message-ID: <87tu86bzrn.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> > From: Bill Horne > > Please tell me how you recommend I partition the drive. Definitely, I'd put all of the space I want Linux information in into an LVM pool. That makes it much easier to reorganize the drive later. Dale From gaf.linux at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 08:12:43 2022 From: gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:12:43 -0400 Subject: [Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <87tu86bzrn.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> References: <87tu86bzrn.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Message-ID: I agree that lvm makes it easier to reorganize than partitioning. Additionally, btrfs also has the tools for this. But, even with the older partitioning schemes, tools like Gnome Parted make fixed partitioning easier to modify. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org PGP key id: 6F6BB6E7 PGP Key fingerprint: 0EDC 2FF5 53A6 8EED 84D1 3050 5715 B88D 6F6 B B6E7 On Sun, Jun 26, 2022, 10:36 PM Dale R. Worley wrote: > > From: Bill Horne > > > > Please tell me how you recommend I partition the drive. > > Definitely, I'd put all of the space I want Linux information in into an > LVM pool. That makes it much easier to reorganize the drive later. > > Dale > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >