From darren44 at cybercom.net  Sat Nov  1 14:37:00 1997
From: darren44 at cybercom.net (darren Chamberlain)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 14:37:00 -0500
Subject: Speaking of JavaScript.../membership?
Message-ID: <345B84DC.279587F0@cybercom.net>

Greetings, all.

I've been reading your page for about a week or so now, being a recent
convert to Linux and a longtime fan of Unix, and I wanted to share a
short script that I wrote that I think you'd like.  It's a script that
rotates sequentially-named banners based on the time; I figured you
would find it useful to add to your front page.  The script would look
like this:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!-- Hide this script from useless browsers
 var timeNow=new Date();
 var now=timeNow.getMinutes();
 if(now<=10)
  number=7;
 else if(now<=20)
  number=6;
 else if(now<=30)
  number=5;
 else if(now<=40)
  number=4;
 else if(now<=50)
  number=3;
 else if(now<=60)
  number=2;
 else
  number=1;

var LinuxURL="http://www.blu.org/images/linuxad"+number+".gif"

document.write("<IMG src="+LinuxURL+" width=460 height=55 border=0
hspace=5 vspace=5>")
// be sure that there is no line break in the document.write
// line!  My mail client automatically wraps the lines-->
</SCRIPT>

and would go on the front page after the announcement of upcoming
events.

Also, whether you care about that script or not, I am interested in
becoming a member.  Is membership open to regular guys like me?

Thanks for your time.

darren Chamberlain
dchamber at count51.med.harvard.edu



From JKELSEY at prodigy.net  Tue Nov  4 10:13:32 1997
From: JKELSEY at prodigy.net (JKELSEY)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:13:32 -0500
Subject: Volunteer?
Message-ID: <345F3B9C.21E9@prodigy.net>

Let me know what's coming up.  Love to help!


From Arnetha_Haynes/CAM/Lotus at lotus.com  Fri Nov  7 12:29:31 1997
From: Arnetha_Haynes/CAM/Lotus at lotus.com (Arnetha_Haynes/CAM/Lotus at lotus.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:29:31 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <85256548.00600852.00@mta2.lotus.com>

subscrcibe  arnethahaynes at lotus.com




From bso at acm.org  Tue Nov 11 18:07:58 1997
From: bso at acm.org (Bosco So)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:07:58 -0700
Subject: missing 64 MB RAM
Message-ID: <3468E54D.692C96EC@acm.org>

I have a Dell OptiPlex GXpro (200 MHz Pentium Pro) with 128 MB of
memory.  Just installed Redhat 4.2, and it reports that the machine only
has 64 MB.  What can I do to get the remaining memory to appear?

-- Bosco So



From richb at pioneer.ci.net  Tue Nov 11 23:56:22 1997
From: richb at pioneer.ci.net (Rich Braun)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:56:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: missing 64 MB RAM
In-Reply-To: <3468E54D.692C96EC@acm.org> from "Bosco So" at Nov 11, 97 04:07:58 pm
Message-ID: <199711120456.XAA00396@envoy.ci.net>

> I have a Dell OptiPlex GXpro (200 MHz Pentium Pro) with 128 MB of
> memory.  Just installed Redhat 4.2, and it reports that the machine only
> has 64 MB.  What can I do to get the remaining memory to appear?

There's a setting you need to put into lilo.conf.  Add the following
line somewhere at the top of the file before the first image:

  append="mem=128M"

If you don't tell it how much RAM you've installed, it has to read the BIOS,
and the BIOS only has enough bits in this field to report the first 64M.

-rich


From chasb at kukla.tiac.net  Tue Nov 11 22:07:14 1997
From: chasb at kukla.tiac.net (chasb at kukla.tiac.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:07:14 -0500
Subject: missing 64 MB RAM 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:07:58 MST."
             <3468E54D.692C96EC@acm.org> 
Message-ID: <199711120307.WAA19760@kukla.tiac.net>


at the boot: prompt, type mem=128M.  You can make this
automatic by adding

	append = "mem=128M"

to the Global section of /etc/lilo.conf and using lilo to
update the bootblock.

If your motherboard uses the upper 384K for BIOS cache or
some similar rubbish you will need to specify something short
of 128M, like mem=130688K.

Mystified?  It's a BIOS thing.  Nobody ever thought we'd get
beyond 64MB RAM.  For more info, check out the BootPrompt
HowTo  On RHL it's in /usr/doc/HOWTO if you installed the HOWTO
rpm.  Also check out the lilo(8) and lilo.conf(5) man pages.

Enjoy & don't forget to pick up your security upgrades from
 ftp.redhat.com.

chasb

---
Charles C. Bennett, Jr. <ccb at acm.org>
UNIX Tools, OO Development, Project Management
  Free Encryption Software!    http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html


From mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net  Wed Nov 12 01:48:00 1997
From: mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 06:48:00 -0000
Subject: missing 64 MB RAM
Message-ID: <4694fd53@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net>



Bosco So wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 BS> I have a Dell OptiPlex GXpro (200 MHz Pentium Pro) with 128
 BS> MB of memory.  Just installed Redhat 4.2, and it reports
 BS> that the machine only has 64 MB.  What can I do to get the
 BS> remaining memory to appear? 

Either upgrade the BIOS or manually specify the memory capacity at the boot
prompt or with Lilo.  Check out both the Boot-Prompt HOWTO nad the Lilo HOWTO.
 
-- Mike




From skahn at dolphinics.com  Thu Nov 13 08:56:53 1997
From: skahn at dolphinics.com (s kahn)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:56:53 -0500
Subject: InstallFest
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971113085653.0094c1c0@maryann.dolphinics.com>


Hi,

I missed the installFest but a friend just installed Red Hat Linux on my
Pentium. I need additional help setting it up to be able to do things like
telnet, connect to the web, and even get the pop-menus to work on the
x-windows. (You know what I mean? - When you do Control right mouse button
- I get an outline of the menu but it's blank.)  I'd really appreciate help
or a pointer to help on these things.

Thanks a lot,

Sarah Kahn
home: 2 Riverbank Road
Maynard, MA
978 897 6309

home email address: skahn at ziplink.net




From guybz at dilbert.checker.taxi  Thu Nov 13 22:58:22 1997
From: guybz at dilbert.checker.taxi (Guy W. Bzibziak)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:58:22 -0500
Subject: LOCAL - Boston, MA - 11/19/97 - Boston Linux & Unix Group [BLU.ORG]
Message-ID: <199711140358.WAA01208@dilbert.checker.taxi>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Keywords: Unix  Linux  JavaScript  BLU.ORG  WWW 
 
Meeting Topic for November:  "An Introduction to JavaScript Programming"

                     Date: 19 November 1997, Wednesday
                     Time: 7:00 p.m.
                     Place: M.I.T. Building 3-133 

Presented by:

James B. Rush <jrush at world.std.com>

James Rush will be presenting an introduction to JavaScript
Programming.  Among the topics to be illustrated will be client-side
web programming.

This scripting language, developed by Netscape and Sun Microsystems,
is simpler than regular Java.  JavaScript can be used to control web
browser behavior, add dynamically created text to web pages, interact
with users through HTML forms, and even control and interact with
Java applets and Navigator plugins.

Among the topics to be covered:

- -> What is JavaScript?
- -> What can it do?  Can't it do?
- -> Creating and calling functions.
- -> Client side form checking vs server side form checking.
- -> Image manipulation.

He has been the Polaroid intranet web master for two years and was a
software developer prior to that.  He has been writing in
Java/javascript for two years and perl for about a year.

**********************************************************

The Boston Linux & Unix Group [BLU.ORG], is the successor to the Boston
Computer Society's Linux & Unix User Group. We want to promote the
awareness and use of Open Systems, and to educate the public and our
members about Open Systems. 

Linux is a UNIX-like operating system built around POSIX standards.
- From its inception less than six years ago, it was developed over the
Internet by a group of people who (for the most part) have never seen
each other, and now runs on an (estimated) 1,000,000 computer systems.
The operating system (and the source code for it) is free to anyone
who wants it. It has been ported to at least the following platforms:
Intel, SPARC, Alpha, MIPS, PPC, and M68K. This is probably the largest
development project ever accomplished using the Internet.
 
     For the latest information on this talk, please see the URL:

        >>>>            http://www.blu.org/             <<<<
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

For a map showing where the meeting hall is located, please see the URL:
        
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From guybz at dilbert.checker.taxi  Thu Nov 13 22:58:22 1997
From: guybz at dilbert.checker.taxi (Guy W. Bzibziak)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:58:22 -0500
Subject: LOCAL - Boston, MA - 11/19/97 - Boston Linux & Unix Group [BLU.ORG]
Message-ID: <199711140358.WAA01208@dilbert.checker.taxi>

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Keywords: Unix  Linux  JavaScript  BLU.ORG  WWW 
 
Meeting Topic for November:  "An Introduction to JavaScript Programming"

                     Date: 19 November 1997, Wednesday
                     Time: 7:00 p.m.
                     Place: M.I.T. Building 3-133 

Presented by:

James B. Rush <jrush at world.std.com>

James Rush will be presenting an introduction to JavaScript
Programming.  Among the topics to be illustrated will be client-side
web programming.

This scripting language, developed by Netscape and Sun Microsystems,
is simpler than regular Java.  JavaScript can be used to control web
browser behavior, add dynamically created text to web pages, interact
with users through HTML forms, and even control and interact with
Java applets and Navigator plugins.

Among the topics to be covered:

- -> What is JavaScript?
- -> What can it do?  Can't it do?
- -> Creating and calling functions.
- -> Client side form checking vs server side form checking.
- -> Image manipulation.

He has been the Polaroid intranet web master for two years and was a
software developer prior to that.  He has been writing in
Java/javascript for two years and perl for about a year.

**********************************************************

The Boston Linux & Unix Group [BLU.ORG], is the successor to the Boston
Computer Society's Linux & Unix User Group. We want to promote the
awareness and use of Open Systems, and to educate the public and our
members about Open Systems. 

Linux is a UNIX-like operating system built around POSIX standards.
- From its inception less than six years ago, it was developed over the
Internet by a group of people who (for the most part) have never seen
each other, and now runs on an (estimated) 1,000,000 computer systems.
The operating system (and the source code for it) is free to anyone
who wants it. It has been ported to at least the following platforms:
Intel, SPARC, Alpha, MIPS, PPC, and M68K. This is probably the largest
development project ever accomplished using the Internet.
 
     For the latest information on this talk, please see the URL:

        >>>>            http://www.blu.org/             <<<<
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

For a map showing where the meeting hall is located, please see the URL:
        
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From 72127996 at 32573.com  Fri Nov 14 08:06:57 1997
From: 72127996 at 32573.com (72127996 at 32573.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 97 08:06:57 EST
Subject: A cheeseburger...
Message-ID: <It's_good!>

<HTML><PRE><BODY BGCOLOR="#000000"><FONT COLOR="#00FFFF" SIZE=3>

Hi!  Have you had a cheeseburger this month?
	I'm going to make this short and sweet. This is a very simple idea which works better than you would imagine.  I received more than a few of these letters in my email and discarded them all until one day I realized that this type of system really can make you and I a lot money.  The best part is that there is next to no investment on your part to make this work.  When I stopped to think about, it's less than *one dollar and sixty seven cents* (the price of a good CHEESEBURGER) per month. I saw no reason why I couldn't afford an extra cheeseburger every now and then so I decided to try it.
	This system needs two things for it to work:  Participation and Honesty.  These are two important concepts which have somehow began working their way out of our society, and which need to be brought back.  Put in your "two cents" and be honest, and you'll be guaranteed your fair share!

	Please note that this program is completely LEGAL and has been proven time and time again.  In fact, you may notice this letter going around a lot lately.  Ever stopped to ask yourself why?  Simple answer:  It works.  It all works out mathematically and theoretically, and it has also been proven by the increased number of these letters going around the web.  Don't be the last to benefit from this program!

----------------------------------------------------------------------
OVERVIEW
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Basically, this is what we do:

We send thousands of people a product for $5.00 that costs next to
nothing to produce and e-mail. As with all multi-level businesses, we
build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our
products.  Every state in the U.S. allows you to recruit

The products in this program are a series of four business and
financial reports costing $5.00 each.  Each order you receive via
"snail mail" will include:

  * $5.00 cash
  * The name and number of the report they are ordering
  * The e-mail address where you will e-mail them the report they
  ordered.

To fill each order, you simply e-mail the product to the buyer. 
THAT'S IT!  The $5.00 is yours!  This is the EASIEST electronic
multi-level marketing business anywhere! 

FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER AND
BE PREPARED TO REAP THE STAGGERING BENEFITS!

******* I  N  S  T  R  U  C  T  I  O  N  S *******

This is what you MUST do:

1. Order all 4 reports shown on the list below (you can't sell them if
     you don't order them).

     *  For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE 
     REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR
     RETURN POSTAL ADDRESS (in case of a problem) to the person
     whose name appears on the list next to the report.

     *  When you place your order, make sure you order each of the
     four reports.  You will need all four reports so that you can save
     them on your computer and resell them.

     *  Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the
     four reports.  Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you
     to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from
     you.

2.  IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed
     next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than is
     instructed below in steps "a" through "d" or you will lose out on the majority of
     your profits.  Once you understand the way this works, you'll also see how it
     doesn't work if you change it.  Remember, this method has been tested, and if
     you alter it, it will not work.

    a.  Look below for the listing of available reports.

    b.  After you've ordered the four reports, replace the name and
    address under REPORT #1 with your name and address, moving the one
    that was there down to REPORT #2.  

    c.  Move the name and address that was under REPORT #2 down to 
         REPORT #3.  

    d.  Move the name and address that was under REPORT #3 down to 
         REPORT #4.  

    e.  The name and address that was under REPORT #4 is removed from
         the list and has NO DOUBT collected their 50 grand.

Please make sure you copy everyone's name and address ACCURATELY!!!

3.  Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names, and
     save it to your computer.  Make NO changes to the instruction portion of this
     letter.

4.  Now you're ready to start an advertising campaign on the
     WORLDWIDE WEB!  Advertising on the WEB is very, very inexpensive,
     and there are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. There is also a lot of
     valuable information in the reports themselves which will help you get your
     message to the masses and (therefore) help you make more money!

5.  For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the
     report they ordered.  THAT'S IT!  ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY      SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!  This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send      out, with YOUR name and address on it, will be prompt because they can't      advertise until they receive the report!

AVAILABLE REPORTS
------------------------------------------
***Order Each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME***

Notes:
-  ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH FOR EACH REPORT 
-  ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS  MAIL 
-  Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two
sheets of paper  -  On one of those sheets of paper, include: (a) the
number & name of the report you are ordering, (b) your e-mail address,
and (c) your postal address.
_________________________________________________________________
Report #1 - How To Distribute Your Email

ORDER REPORT #1 FROM:  
           Jon Miller
           1570 S. Sonora Dr.
           Columbia, MO 65201
_________________________________________________________________
Report #2 - Having Other Companies Distribute For You

ORDER REPORT #2 FROM:
            Nick Falls
            1800 McKee
            Columbia, MO 65202
_________________________________________________________________
Report #3 - Email Programs and Distribution

ORDER REPORT #3 FROM:
           JK Web
           6150 Richland Rd.
           Columbia, MO 65201
_________________________________________________________________
Report #4 - Collecting Email Lists

ORDER REPORT #4 FROM:

            Quillen Douglas
            220 Nattinger
            Warrensburg, MO 64093
_________________________________________________________________

----------------------------------------------------------------------
HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PLAN WILL MAKE YOU $MONEY$
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Let's say you decide to start small just to see how well it works.
Assume your goal is to get 10 people to participate on your first
level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet will EASILY get a
larger response.) Also assume that everyone else you pull in also pulls
in 10 members.

1st level--your 10 members with $5...........................................$50 
2nd level--10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100)..................$500 
3rd level--10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1,000)..........$5,000
4th level--10 members from those 1,000 ($5 x 10,000)...$50,000
                                                   THIS TOTALS       
                                                   ----------->$55,550

Remember friends, this assumes that the people who participate only
recruit 10 people each.  Think for a moment what would happen if they
got 20 people to participate!  Most people get 100's of participants!
THINK ABOUT IT!

Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you
can afford $20). You obviously already have an internet connection and
e-mail is FREE!!!  Not only that, but our reports show you the most productive methods for bulk e-mailing and purchasing e-mail lists!

About 50,000 new people get online every month!

*******TIPS FOR SUCCESS*******

 *  TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS!  Be prompt, professional, and follow 
     the directions accurately.

 *  Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when 
    the orders start coming in because:

    When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested
    product/report to comply with the U.S. Postal & Lottery Laws,
    Title 18,Sections 1302 and 1341 or Title 18,  Section 3005 in the
    U.S. Code, also Code of Federal Regs. vol. 16, Sections 255 and
    436, which state that "a product or service must be exchanged for
    money received."

 *  ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU      RECEIVE.

 *  Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the 
     instructions exactly, the results WILL undoubtedly be SUCCESSFUL!

 *  ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED!


</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3>



From molloy at ne.mediaone.net  Sun Nov 16 22:46:59 1997
From: molloy at ne.mediaone.net (molloy at ne.mediaone.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:46:59 -0500
Subject: DHCP/MediaOne
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971116224658.00698a38@ne.mediaone.net>

Hi Folks;
	Forgive me if this is an old topic or if someone has asked this before. I
need to reconfigure my linux box to use DHCP, specifically my MediaOne
cable modem
if anyone has done this already, or could point me in the right direction I
would be grateful.

	I think this is just a simple problem of making sure that DHCP is
configured properly on my machine, but when mediaone came to install they
said that they did not support Linux, so my question is not just about
configuring my machine to be a DHCP client, not a server. (mediaone screams
if you have a dhcp server, something about your only paying for one IP
*mgrin*) but also about any issues with mediaone/other local ISP's that
only support DHCP and have similar policies in place.


				Thank You

					-Phil Molloy


From gaf at mediaone.net  Mon Nov 17 07:09:07 1997
From: gaf at mediaone.net (gaf at mediaone.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:09:07 -0500
Subject: DHCP/MediaOne
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971116224658.00698a38@ne.mediaone.net>
Message-ID: <19971117120858.AAA6878@gaf.ne.mediaone.net>

On 16 Nov 97 at 22:46, molloy at ne.mediaone.net <molloy at ne.mediaone.net> 
wrote:

> Hi Folks;
> 	Forgive me if this is an old topic or if someone has asked this before. I
> need to reconfigure my linux box to use DHCP, specifically my MediaOne
> cable modem
> if anyone has done this already, or could point me in the right direction I
> would be grateful.
> 
> 	I think this is just a simple problem of making sure that DHCP is
> configured properly on my machine, but when mediaone came to install they
> said that they did not support Linux, so my question is not just about
> configuring my machine to be a DHCP client, not a server. (mediaone screams
> if you have a dhcp server, something about your only paying for one IP
> *mgrin*) but also about any issues with mediaone/other local ISP's that
> only support DHCP and have similar policies in place.
Phil,
M1E has a Linux news group also that you might check out.
+----------------------------------------------+
Gerald Feldman <gaf at mediaone.net>
Boston Computer Solutions and Consulting


From guybz at world.std.com  Mon Nov 17 19:19:28 1997
From: guybz at world.std.com (Guy W Bzibziak)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:19:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Meeting Reminder - 11/19/97 (Wed.) - Intro to JavaScript - [BLU.ORG]
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.971117191222.25574C-100000@world.std.com>

Don't Forget! -- Hope to See You Wednesday!

Subject: LOCAL - Boston,MA - 11/19/97 - Intro to JavaScript - [BLU.ORG]
Keywords: Unix  Linux  JavaScript  BLU.ORG  WWW 
 
Meeting Topic for November:  "An Introduction to JavaScript Programming"

                     Date: 19 November 1997, Wednesday
                     Time: 7:00 p.m.
                     Place: M.I.T. Building 3-133 
				   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Presented by:	James B. Rush <jrush at world.std.com>

James Rush will be presenting an introduction to JavaScript
Programming.  Among the topics to be illustrated will be client-side
web programming.

This scripting language, developed by Netscape and Sun Microsystems,
is simpler than regular Java.  JavaScript can be used to control web
browser behavior, add dynamically created text to web pages, interact
with users through HTML forms, and even control and interact with
Java applets and Navigator plugins.

Among the topics to be covered:

-> What is JavaScript?
-> What can it do?  Can't it do?
-> Creating and calling functions.
-> Client side form checking vs server side form checking.
-> Image manipulation.

James Rush has been the Polaroid intranet web master for two years 
and was a software developer prior to that.  He has been writing in
Java/javascript for two years and perl for about a year. 

**********************************************************

The Boston Linux & Unix Group [BLU.ORG], is the successor to the Boston
Computer Society's Linux & Unix User Group. We want to promote the
awareness and use of Open Systems, and to educate the public and our
members about Open Systems. 

     For the latest information on this talk, please see the URL:

        >>>>            http://www.blu.org/             <<<<
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

For a map showing where the meeting hall is located, please see the URL:
        
        >>>>            http://registrar.mit.edu/map/           <<<<

*********************************************************************
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From molloy at ne.mediaone.net  Tue Nov 18 22:31:30 1997
From: molloy at ne.mediaone.net (molloy at ne.mediaone.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:31:30 -0500
Subject: problem solved
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971118223127.00687178@ne.mediaone.net>

Hi Folks;
	I found the information I needed at:
<a href="http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/ldp/HOWTO/mini/DHCPcd.html"></a>

and while I was there I also found some interesting information on RedHat
5.0 aka Hurricane. This btw looks *really* cool anyone have any information
on it? Might be an idea for a december or January meeting, overview of
features and differences. Just a thought. Thanks for all the help.





			-Phil Molloy


From cyoung at bbnplanet.com  Thu Nov 27 18:19:09 1997
From: cyoung at bbnplanet.com (Chuck Young)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:19:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Modem question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.971127180610.26866B-100000@helm.bbnplanet.com>

I have to test a bunch of modems and am curious to know if it will cause
the average modem harm to call it on the phone and listen for the two
tones and squirrel fight with the telephone to be sure it is up.  It's
a pain in the ass to dial everything out manually by terminal and I don't
want to write a script to end with a +++ath and check for an OK.  Um, I do
not want to "break" them with a manual phone call and no clean hangup
either.

It's a general question, so I am looking for a general answer, if
possible.  Anyone have a thought or two?

Chuck Young



From mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net  Thu Nov 27 21:07:00 1997
From: mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 97 02:07:00 -0000
Subject: Modem question
Message-ID: <47e26b43@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net>



Chuck Young wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 CY> I have to test a bunch of modems and am curious to know if
 CY> it will cause the average modem harm to call it on the phone
 CY> and listen for the two tones and squirrel fight with the
 CY> telephone to be sure it is up.  It's a pain in the ass to
 CY> dial everything out manually by terminal and I don't want to
 CY> write a script to end with a +++ath and check for an OK. 
 CY> Um, I do not want to "break" them with a manual phone call
 CY> and no clean hangup either.

 CY> It's a general question, so I am looking for a general
 CY> answer, if possible.  Anyone have a thought or two?

I'm not sure I understand your question.  If you could phrase it more plainly,
I would have more confidence in answering it.

I think you want to know if it can cause any trouble to call an answering modem
with a voice telephone call instead of another modem?  If that is what you are
actually asking, then the answer is that it is perfectly safe.  If you are
using any reasonable software such as mgetty to answer the modem, then it
should always recover into a perfectly stable and well defined state.
 
-- Mike




From gaf at mediaone.net  Fri Nov 28 08:06:29 1997
From: gaf at mediaone.net (gaf at mediaone.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:06:29 -0500
Subject: NH ISIG meeting Tuesday December 2, 1997
Message-ID: <19971128130703.AAA26189@gaf.ne.mediaone.net>

Location: Nashua, NH Public Library
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 1997
Speaker, Topic:TBA

As this time, we have not been able to confirm our planned speaker. 
We will send out a supplementary notice on Monday with the topic and 
speaker information.

Please contact me for any further information either at this address or 
at gaf at zk3.dec.com.

Please check out the web site for directions:http://www.nh-isig.org

Also note that the mailing lists served by bcs1.ziplink.net and 
signet.org willl be out of service after 9AM EST today, 11/28/97 until 
later in the afternoon for a much needed software upgrade.


Jerry Feldman <gaf at mediaone.net>
New Hampshire Internet SIG Meeting Coordinator
http://www.nh-isig.org


From molloy at ne.mediaone.net  Fri Nov 28 23:50:10 1997
From: molloy at ne.mediaone.net (molloy at ne.mediaone.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:50:10 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971128235008.0069edf0@ne.mediaone.net>

Hi Folks;
go check out the web page <http://www.heise.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/>,
it has to be seen to believed. Linux for The Nintendo 64



					-phil


From mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net  Sat Nov 29 02:42:00 1997
From: mikebw at bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 97 07:42:00 -0000
Subject: Linux on Nintendo?
Message-ID: <47fc67f1@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net>



molloy wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 m> Hi Folks;
 m> go check out the web page
 m> <http://www.heise.de/ix/artikel/E/1997/04/036/>, it has to
 m> be seen to believed. Linux for The Nintendo 64

This is a joke, in case you didn't guess from such comments as:

   Input media can be either the bundled console (see photograph above)
   or a PC keyboard via adapter. The first solution requires a bit of
   experience when entering text, because each character is represented
   by a 3 degree angle of the analog stick. Internationally less
   frequently used characters like the backslash were, therefore, not
   implemented.

If you missed the date, Ix published the article as an April Fool joke.

Emulators for running Nintendo software on Linux really do exist; see
"http://www.eskimo.com/~slack/emu.html" for information.
 
-- Mike




From molloy at ne.mediaone.net  Sat Nov 29 10:47:17 1997
From: molloy at ne.mediaone.net (molloy at ne.mediaone.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:47:17 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971129104715.006a2b48@ne.mediaone.net>

Hi Folks;
	My apologies for not looking as close as I should have on the nintendo
article. It was late when I sent that, and I was tired. I still think it
was funny though. =)



				-Phil


From gaf at mediaone.net  Sat Nov 29 16:39:31 1997
From: gaf at mediaone.net (gaf at mediaone.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 16:39:31 -0500
Subject: RTFM question regarding pseudo terminals.
In-Reply-To: <19971129213358.AAA15633@gaf.ne.mediaone.net>
Message-ID: <19971129214010.AAA17481@gaf.ne.mediaone.net>

On 29 Nov 97 at 16:34, gaf at mediaone.net <gaf at mediaone.netwrote:

I rebuilt the former BCS web server yesterday with red Hat 4.0 (Because 
of net problems I had to use CD Rom). While we wasted a good portion of 
the day on Network cards, I did not start the real installation until 
late.

1 problem is with telnet, rlogin. etc. It gives me a message that I am 
out of ptys, which means I have to make the trip up to Lowell tomorrow. 

The other problem is that the install failed when trying to update the 
MBR, so I am still working with Linux on a diskette. 

I have seen both before, and I just don't remember how I got around it.
The PTY problem is the most serious for me since the server is mostly 
administered from home.
+----------------------------------------------+
Gerald Feldman <gaf at mediaone.net>
Boston Computer Solutions and Consulting


From richb at pioneer.ci.net  Sat Nov 29 17:47:10 1997
From: richb at pioneer.ci.net (Rich Braun)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:47:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Reliable version?
In-Reply-To: <19971129214010.AAA17481@gaf.ne.mediaone.net> from "gaf@mediaone.net" at Nov 29, 97 04:39:31 pm
Message-ID: <199711292247.RAA32529@envoy.ci.net>

Jerry wrote:
> I rebuilt the former BCS web server yesterday with red Hat 4.0...

Don't have an answer about your Red Hat installation, but I have a
query about stabilizing my system.  It's been running stable for the
year since I set it up from the WGS Linux Pro CD version 4.0.  Then a
few weeks ago (recall my posts on this list) I built a 2.0.31 kernel
to support IP masquerading.  The 1.2.13 kernel never crashed; the new
one crashes about once a week, with a constantly repeating error
message on the console (unfortunately it doesn't log anywhere and I
don't remember it now--last crash was 11 days ago).

Should I bag my old installation and overhaul it with a new distribution, or
should I take the time to figure out what's wrong with this setup?  Or should
I just go to one of the 2.1 experimental kernels?  If so, which is the most
stable version folks here have experience with?

This is my private system and gets almost no traffic, as compared to the
heavily-bombarded ISP systems I built at Pioneer Global.  I'm about to write
up another posting about those...

-rich


From richb at pioneer.ci.net  Sat Nov 29 18:32:55 1997
From: richb at pioneer.ci.net (Rich Braun)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:32:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Pioneering Linux in a production environment
Message-ID: <199711292332.SAA32655@envoy.ci.net>

I heard from the system manager at Pioneer Global (now called Verio
Northeast) that the old wizard.pn.com system is getting decommissioned
in December.  It started out in August 1994 as the main news server on
a 486DX2/66 with 32Mb of RAM.  It began serving web pages soon
thereafter and began virtual-hosting with Apache in August '95.  The
Apache deployment was first in the region, to my knowledge, by a
couple of weeks--this was a major moment in web history, since it
enabled ISP's to sign up commercial accounts and register domains with
practically zero equipment overhead.  Quickly I concluded I didn't want
to be in the high-volume, low-margin website registration business, but
it was an interesting challenge to get it set up in the early days.

In the fall of '95, wizard.pn.com ran out of steam under the increase in
netnews volume, so I upgraded it to a Pentium P133 with 128Mb of RAM.  I
think that's the current configuration, and it has 6 SCSI drives with about
15Gb of storage.  The new owners of the company went with Sparc Ultra
servers and is beginning to phase out older gear.  Yet, aside from occasional
hard-disk failures, the legacy of Linux at Pioneer Global is one of high
availability and solid, high performance.

Linux will live on indefinitely in the form of the old UUCP server,
uu2.pn.com, which I built shortly before leaving the company in August
'97.  It started out as rkbhome.jti.com, a 386DX25 with 100Mb disk and
4Mb RAM, in December 1992 running version 0.98pl5.  In January '93 I
upgraded hardware to a 486DX33 with a 1-gig disk and 16Mb of RAM.  A
couple months later I came up with the name 'pioneer' for the system, and
adopted the 'ci.net' domain name as part of an initiative called Community
Internet which provided news and email service to members and activists
interested in making Internet accessible to the public without barriers
of economics or technical expertise.  (The next year, PPP wars started
in earnest with the launch of TIAC, Shorenet, and a host of other providers
locally and nationally, so the civic aspect got lost in the whirlwind of
commercial activity--hopefully I'll be able to get back to civic networking
once my life quiets down a bit!)  Pioneer.ci.net was a 486DX2/66 with 32Mb
of RAM at the time I decommissioned it in September '97, almost 5 years
after launching it.  (Actually, it's still powered up but not online.  Guess
I'll leave the electricity on for another week or so, until the official
5-year mark is hit!)

I checked uptime on the other Linux server over there, ts1.pn.com, and it's
205 days.  That's a PPP server which is likely to get decommissioned and
replaced with something from Cisco if my guess is right.

For those who are wondering what happens to someone who builds an ISP and gets
burned out supporting it 24 hours a day for 3 or 4 years, here's what happened
to me...  In February, I signed an agreement to sell the company to Verio.
They took a few months to bring in new management, and I worked during the
transition for 6 months.  Then I dropped out of sight for 3 months, during
which I worked on fixing up a 90-year-old Somerville house--ask me the SKU
number on anything at Home Depot, I've been there 200 times by now--and have
resurfaced as a senior network integrator at GE Capital.  (Warning, advertising
pitch:  mine is a new group of a half-dozen network guys looking for WAN/LAN
deployment work at mid-size to large companies, please give me a chance to
look at your RFP's for projects in '98--our office is in Boston but we can
do projects like 100BaseTX upgrades, router/switch replacements, Frame Relay
installations, and NT/Novell/Apple/Unix server upgrades pretty much anywhere.
Oh, and my boss always wants me to mention the lease-financing group.  And
I'm always on the lookout for talented new-hires.  Ah, I'm descending into
undesirable sales-pitch SPAM.  End unpaid advertisement.)  Undoubtedly I'll
be sneaking Linux boxes into various corners of GE as I figure out where
to tuck them.

One of the interesting things about all this history of Linux and the Internet
tied together is how the industry is getting fragmented.  At a talk for
entrepreneurs last month, one of the VC guys mentioned a study done by one of
the big Silicon Valley venture funds.  It's a set of binders called "10,000
Niches", and details ten thousand different angles on the Internet being
converged on by more than that number of companies in the software, hardware,
and service sectors.  It's totally unprecedented, on a scale bigger than the
early days of PC's when there used to be myriad competitors in that arena.
Even though at first glance one would think there'd be no room at all for
long-term profits running a company with that many competitors, VC funding is
increasing rapidly for Internet-related companies.

Something different has happened with the Unix market, despite its
ongoing growth and its long-time ties to the Internet its history has
paralleled since the early '70s.  Every player except Sun and Linux
has pretty much dropped out; Digital has played a strong hand but the
recent Intel deal (to outsource fabrication of the Alpha chip) is
likely, in my opinion, to hand 98% of the remaining commercial Unix
market to one company, Sun Microsystems.  Sun is quadrupling the size
of their employee base here in Massachusetts in a new facility, I
hear, and the rest of the Unix players are fading.  Meanwhile Linux
has continued building a track record, and has been made freely
available to enough commercial users that it's going to be around for
a good long while.  The Microsoft juggernaught has attracted pretty
much all desktop applications development from other platforms,
including Linux and Solaris.  The open question remains this: will
Linux remain a preferred server platform for Internet applications, as
Microsoft and Sun set their sights on this segment of the industry?
And, whatever happened to IBM and DEC, have they gone away for good?

-rich


From gaf at mediaone.net  Sat Nov 29 19:08:21 1997
From: gaf at mediaone.net (gaf at mediaone.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:08:21 -0500
Subject: Reliable version?
In-Reply-To: <199711292247.RAA32529@envoy.ci.net>
References: <19971129214010.AAA17481@gaf.ne.mediaone.net> from "gaf@mediaone.net" at Nov 29, 97 04:39:31 pm
Message-ID: <19971130000857.AAA1756@gaf.ne.mediaone.net>

On 29 Nov 97 at 17:47, Rich Braun <richb at pioneer.ci.net> wrote:

> Should I bag my old installation and overhaul it with a new distribution, or
> should I take the time to figure out what's wrong with this setup?  Or should
> I just go to one of the 2.1 experimental kernels?  If so, which is the most
> stable version folks here have experience with?
My experience as a software engineer tells me to stick with something 
stable, but some of the new features are somewhat necessary. My 
preference would be to try to figure out where the problem is, maybe 
just rebuild the kernel.
+----------------------------------------------+
Gerald Feldman <gaf at mediaone.net>
Boston Computer Solutions and Consulting