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# [Discuss] Why the dislike of X.509?

*Subject*: [Discuss] Why the dislike of X.509?*From*: bill.n1vux at gmail.com (Bill Ricker)*Date*: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:49:17 -0400*In-reply-to*: <53FF75C6.7@gmail.com>*References*: <53F9F6B9.4060505@stephenadler.com> <20140824161132.GE14848@randomstring.org> <be314521ab6bebb6add54d706b042f01.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> <53FA1C3B.70908@gmail.com> <53FB19E5.4080602@aeminium.org> <53FB4A5D.2030305@gmail.com> <CA+h9Qs5GnC6d1ejBQC=crtHwxoDiFWo4Kn+xjt0eiA8Kr733_A@mail.gmail.com> <53FB70E6.50706@gmail.com> <sjmmwarchcd.fsf@securerf.ihtfp.org> <53FE1FCB.7010405@gmail.com> <sjmvbpcbji2.fsf@securerf.ihtfp.org> <53FF75C6.7@gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Richard Pieri <richard.pieri at gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have their keys. I have one-way hashes of their keys. And your > hypothetical dump will have the same one-way hashes. which is far safer than one-way hashes of any usable passwords. Kerberos KDC is limits the attack surface instead of concentrating it, and implements session key negotiation without requiring asymmetric (PubKey), although public key is available for authentication. pretty slick. ( Don't think it would scale to the whole internet though, as we have other requirements there. ) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1vux at gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux

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