------------------------------- Wed Jul 20 06:33:38 PM EDT 2022 ------------------------------- Transcript of Chat box from BLU meeting, Wed, Jul 20, 2022 Meeting held online via Jitsi Meet In attendance (14 total): Speaker(s): * John Abreau * Dick Miller * Jerry Feldman BLU officers: * Bill Ricker Attendees (named): * Arnold Peterson * Ben Kallus * Brendan Kidwell (NYC) * Ed Piecewicz * Jill Miller * Paul Jameson Attendees (anonymous): * Bob P. * Jon * Michael I (he/him) * VAB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:Reminder, keyboard shortcuts https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/user-guide/keyboard-shortcuts/ 19:10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fellow Jitster says:Seeing a frozen image of Jabr here. 19:12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz says:👍 19:13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fellow Jitster says:👍 19:13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz says:Black screen here Ed Piecewicz says:His name is at bottom, no image now. Ed Piecewicz says:Blurry but visible 19:14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael I (he/him) says:I saw it as blurry, then it disappered again. Michael I (he/him) says:Maybe as if there was not enough bandwidth to cast both image and voice. 19:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:Nothing but the avatar, and audio is cutting oput a lot. Bob P. says:out 19:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:yes, JABR frequently has low bandwidth on his service 19:17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:His Jitsi connectioin says Good. 19:17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael I (he/him) says:MUCH better! Michael I (he/him) says:👍 19:34 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz says:yes 19:34 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:Dick, you're sharing two rows of icons 19:43 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I've got a thumbdrive the size of a tiny bluetooth dongle. the thumbdrive is 0.25TB 19:45 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:Yes, that's like what Dick and Jill have. 19:47 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Kallus says:Sounds to me like a good use for an SD card 19:47 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman says:Yes, an sd card would work fine 19:47 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:I'd worry about running anything from an SD Card for an extended period. 19:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Kallus says:Depends on the SD card Ben Kallus says:no risk of smashing the port if it's a nice spring-loaded port 19:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:Yes, it does. Bob P. says:And the reader. 19:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I have an SD card taped into my netbook's SD slot, serving as additional storage after the tiny "market segmented" MMC main storage. (MS forced netbook makers to ship with windows and with not enough storage) 19:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:I've also seen USB-A and μA two-ender Bill Ricker says:but they may be vanishing from retail as C comes into force 19:49 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:I just use an external enclosure, but that's not for mobile use. 19:49 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman says:II bought 2 1TB thumb drives, and it blanked the screen on my Tesla 😱 19:49 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I think Tesla cars are not production-ready 19:50 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Kallus says:I can see without refreshing 19:51 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob P. says:Good. 19:51 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:Issue was that Paul is double connected Bill Ricker says:(and in that case both need to be muted) 19:53 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Feldman says:Both are 19:53 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:NOW Bill Ricker says:Χαοσ Bill Ricker says:(another reason to prefer a separate camera, still pocketable) 20:04 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I bought a ~$300 Unihertz Titan Pocket. It is an Android phone that looks like a square screen chicklet keyboard Blackberry, with no RIM software. I'm surprised but not concerned that the camera is really mediocre. Buy the phone you want and buy a pocket-sized camera to go with it, if you want good pics Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:Titan Pocket is a very good phone, all things considered 20:18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Kallus says:The big issue with Android phones is that Broadcom, Samsung, and Mediatek don't always get their SoCs upstreamed, so most phones need heavily patched kernels. Then the phone OEMs patch them even more to support all the peripherals built into the phone. This means that phones are usually tied to one of just a few kernel versions, and exploits inevitably accumulate. The solution to this problem is to purchase a phone supported by mainline Linux. Pixel phones are good about this, but there are some others. Samsung phones with Exynos SoCs almost never get mainlined. 20:21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:what Ben said -- this is why I hate the Android ecosystem 20:21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz says:I dislike all the factory bloatware installed on them, Samsung This, Samsung That. Please! 👎 Ed Piecewicz says:Let me add and remove what I want. Not what they want. 20:22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:I will never but a gadget with a USB-B-micro socket again. this socket is an abomination. USB-C only, for me now Brendan Kidwell (NYC) says:*will never buy a… 20:24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says:B-micro is fine for my outboard spinning rust backup drives, but not for anything that doesn't live either plugged in forever or in a bag with its personal charging cord. 20:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Kallus says:Those little teeth were such a bad idea 20:48 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Piecewicz says:Hes muted Ed Piecewicz says:Goodnight Ed Piecewicz says:good meeting 20:52 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- // bill ricker crypto talk for september // ask rajiv about a rails talk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ricker says: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1412949#map=14/42.3049/-71.3734&layers=T RailTrail 21:04 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- meeting ended at 9:09 pm